Re: Bye Bye Beatles?
Posted by **Beatles Fan Robert** on Jul 23, 2017 at 10:13:38 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Bye Bye Beatles? posted by **khfpl** on Jul 23, 2017 at 3:45:48 AM:
****Anyone want to offer an opinion as to what will become of he Beatles music once the baby boomer generation passes on? Me thinks a steady decline in interest, give the fact that most of the music is beyond the half-century mark. The earliest albums sound very dated, have for some time. From Beatles For Sale, original songs, better. Rubber Soul and Abbey Road, in my opinion, have aged the best. But as for the rest...
***Given your replies to several fellow Bagists who offered their respective opinion you seem to have stopped liking them around 1970 and never seemed to have really liked them anyway.
**I like the music...I just don't idolize them. There was a lot of other music then.
*Who would have thought? (rolls eyes)
Jimi Hendrix. The Who. The Doors. The Rolling Stones. The Kinks. Credence Clearwater Revival. May I say more? And that's must the 60's! I would even give an argument for John Phillips of the Mamas and Papas - his lyrics and music was brilliant at times. But since it was essentially one songwriter and two competent backup singers (and one very pretty but incompetent one, sorry Michelle) they can't be counted, although they were immensely popular for a short period of time.
And for what it's worth, before his breakdown, Brian Wilson could compose songs with the best of them. Granted, the Beatles had 3 very competent ones. But I still contend that without George Martin at the helm they would not have accomplished as much as they did.
As far as being a live act, in most of their concerts all you could hear was the deafening roar of the crowd. They admitted as much - they were out of tune since they could not each other or even their own instruments.
It's almost impossible to speculate how good or bad they would have been after 1970, but all indications were they had pretty much done all they could. Let It Be was a giant slide downward. Abbey Road was a great way to go out, but Harrison carried the album. The second side was just half finished songs woven together.
I am knocking them. Don't get me wrong. I started this thread to posit that given the small catalog they left behind, and the very dated sound of the first two or three, the fact that one was an album of rejects and a George Martin composes score (Yellow Submarine), the failure of Let It Be, the butchering of Long and Winding Road, the fact that they were not even heard from for months before and after Pepper, all signs indicated a decline. And I can repeat, ad nauseum, since I was alive and kicking at the, it took the Paul Is Dead nonesense to revive their record sales. Look it up, it is a fact. Ditto for when the anthologies were released - suddenly the old catalog started appearing on the Billboard charts.
Their accomplishments, at lease as far as Beatlemania went, were from Meet the Beatles (I live in the USA) through the Help! movie. Their were some peaks and valleys after that.
Here are the major and minor albums, not in any particular order:
Major as far as historic importance go (and quality of the song writing and production):
Meet the Beatles - introduced them to the USA
Hard Day's Night - with the movie of course
Rubber Soul - first album with a theme
Revolver - the acid album. And it's all McCartney as far as the highlights go. Only album to kick off with a Harrison song, his best until Abbey Road as far as I'm concerned, and perhaps the best overall. It was the perfect lead in for any album.
Pepper - studio experimentation in technicolor. cool album cover and guaranteed a spot by itself, and the brilliant production was spot on.
White Album - eclectic mess, warts and all. The first solo album for the major three, Lennon McCartney and Harrison. They were drifting apart by then. The breakup was inevitable.
Abbey Road - the whole is better than the parts, save the Harrison gems and Come Together.
Magical Mystery Tour - has some of their weakest album tracks. Very strange cover, yet in a very weird way was as eye catching as Pepper. Most people scratched their heads and asked themselves what the hell they were doing?
Yellow Submarine - Rejects and a movie score.
Let It Be, although an argument can be made of bumping it up to major since it was the swan song as far as release date is concerned. You either love the Spectorized sound or hated it. Either way it was a sharp departure from any other album, and far inferior to any of them.
I limited my scope to the studio albums.
Post 1970 I can only give a nod to the BBC double album. Since those recordings had only been heard on bootlegs up until then. But it is hardly essential.
Anything released after Let It Be. Sorry fans of the anthologies and the mediocre Free as a Bird and Real Love - there have been endless compilations, seconds, live studio recordings, etc., since, but most were only essential as far as collectors were concerned. Yes, '1' keeps on selling, and is in it's 4th incarnation, but all best hits albums are just that, no concept, songs we've heard to death.
Part of the problem is that their most popular songs have been overplayed. Many can sing it verbatim without missing a beat.
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