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Re: Worst LP Song

Posted by **Beatles Fan Robert** on Jul 6, 2017 at 7:51:34 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Worst LP Song posted by **backbeat** on Jul 5, 2017 at 1:57:56 PM:

*******ALthough there are a few contenders (Mr. Moonlight, Revolution #9), there is only one true clunker on all of the 13
*******Wild Honey Pie. They must have been stoned out of their minds when thy records this stinker.
******sorry but Wild Honey Pie is wonderful - i can understand questioning 'Don't Pass me By' even though i like it, but Wild Honey Pie? no way! it's great.
*****What makes it so "great"? The lyrics?
*****The melody? It's crap crap crap. Self indulgent crap. Not Guilty should've knocked that song off. Opinions are like a-holes though right. If u dig it cool. Come to think of it "Dig It" isn't so "great" either. Repititious boring jam. I'm glad Spector chopped it down to 53 seconds or whatever it is.
****it's completely unique and very creative imo - it's not so much a song but a short link - actually McCartney said they weren't going to include it but George's wife Patti liked it a lot so they left it on the album - and i'm glad they did :^)
***also, and not that it means anything, but In 2003, Stylus Magazine ranked Wild Honey Pie at number 1 on their list of the "Top Ten Filler Tracks", saying "the greatest piece of filler to ever clutter an over-ambitious double album"
***And ta boot the Pixies chose to cover it on their 1998 album Pixies at the BBC.
***Anyway it's not meant to be a heavy serious number rather whimsical, fun/playful and creative.
**It's the product of a self-indulgent group of men in their 20s with no deadlines to complete an album and no one to say no. Sorry but no matter how you cut it it is the weakest track by far.
*each to their own - for me the White Album is my favourite because of songs (if one can call it that at .51 seconds) like Wild Honey Pie, which would not normally make it on one of their 'more produced/polished' albums - i love the White Album for it quirkiness, looser style and extra bits and bobs...i certainly don't find anything about the White Album 'self-indulgent' or rather anything they produced for that matter - they were creative musicians pushing the barriers and for what they gave us I'll take whatever your definition of 'their self-indigence' is anytime.
*I like David Bowie's thoughts on Lennon pushing the envelope

Self indulgence as in going with Rev #9. Self indulgence as in Paul taking them through 1,000,000 takes of Obla Di until they were sick and tired of it. As in going with Wild Honey Pie, Don't Pass Me By, Honey Pie, Why Don't We Do It In the Road, etc., none of which were anywhere near the caliber of the majority of tracks on Rubber Soul, Revolver, Pepper, etc. Self indulgence as in not listening to George Martin regarding the song lineup - he went on record as being for "one very strong LP" rather than the double one released. In Anthology Paul scoffed at that, but Martin was right.

Anyhow all of the above is well documented. Yes it had more good than bad. But who in their right mind would contend that it was overall as strong as more tightly edited albums before or after (Abbey Road showed what they were still capable of when focusing on their strengths and actually listening to their producer). More so it gave us a glimpse into the fragmenting of the group before our very eyes, even if most of us were in denial at the time. It was followed up with the Yellow Submarine soundtrack, an LP consisting of two regurgitated tracks and some second rate songs, along with the instrumental tracks on the second side. The aborted Get Back sessions, immediately following it, was definitely rock bottom.

Yep, my opinion is just that, mine. But I was there, at the time of the original release, and have pretty strong memories as to what was happening at the time. Listening to it for the first time, and being puzzled by some of the weaker tracks. Being baffled by Revolution #9 (very long, tacked on at the end, taking up a huge amount of vinyl on the flip side of the second LP). Yes, it was a huge bestseller, but remember, it was their first studio album since Pepper (Mystery Tour was an EP fleshed out by Capitol Records in the US with some singles from 1967, one of the smartest things they ever did), so fans were hungering for anything new. They were going to buy anything new, and it was also on the heal of the Hey Jude/Revolution 45 monster hit. They bought it in droves.

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