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Re: so the National Parks are Closed
Posted by **Winston OBoogie** on Oct 4, 2013 at 8:16:16 PM:
In Reply to: Re: so the National Parks are Closed posted by **Hippie J** on Oct 4, 2013 at 6:07:56 AM:
********what would be the big deal if the National Parks were permanently shuttered anyway?
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********taken away from Federal control?
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********why not simply turn them over the states that they are in to administer?
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********the Feds could allocate the money that was in the budget to run that particular park for the 1st year & give it to the host state - after that it would be up to the state to decide how & if it should be funded with any proceeds coming from tourism going back to the state
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********perhaps giving the state some sort of ongoing partial & time limited tax credit to help with the funding
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********after all - isn't the Federal government's job to oversee & protect the nation as a whole (the common good/external threats) rather than overseeing acreage that resides within an individual state's boundaries?
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********let the states determine the best way to handle & administer them in a way that's best for the state
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********how did the Feds become "the groundskeepers" with the rest of the nation funding their operations for areas of land that reside within a given state & who benefit from the land being where it is?
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********just a thought...........
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*******I've seen what happens when the state takes over control of previously federal government controlled land or buildings. They turn it into business districts or build more condos and try to turn the land or buildings into money making deals. Greed takes over particularly in states like Illinois. Areas formerly controlled by the federal government or under the auspices of the army corps of engineers have become wastelands, unkempt and totally useless pieces of land waiting for someone to come along and turn it into something else. When my late wife and I went camping we always sought out land or places controlled by the federal government instead of places ran by the state. They were in much better shape and better taken care of than those places controlled by the state.
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*******Just my opinion, but I think what is controlled by the federal government should remain controlled by the federal government wrt national parks and museums.
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******I agree. I also like to think that the parks are truly national not state resources. The Grand Canyon should belong to the whole country, not just Arizona...for instance.
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*****except 'they' don't care what you think which is why our rogue govt let the UN take control of most of these places and relinquished our sovereignty in relation to them
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*****its all about agenda 21
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****Give me a list of places that the UN has taken over. I am not aware of ANYTHING the US has allowed the UN to take over in this country..natural resources or otherwise.
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***of course not - that's the way they want it
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***you can google it it's all right there
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***under the guise of conservation and 'world heritage'
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***http://www.unep-wcmc.org/medialibrary/2010/10/25/76133cbe/2003_UN_List.pdf
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***was in some papers too
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**From what I've gathered is it's just a list of protected areas that are basically world wide in scope and all listed as protected natural resources. It doesn't indicate ANYTHING that the UN actually controls any of them. Each individual country where the protected areas are located that are on the list are solely responsible. The UN only maintains a list.
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**(The list) records the global community’s endeavour to conserve the Earth’s natural places. The growth in area and extent of the conservation estate in the 20th century, especially in the last quarter of the century, reflects an increasing political com
**mitment to conserving the Earth’s remaining biological diversity. The growth in the global protected areas network, with diverse management objectives, also reflects the high social and cultural values that societies place on them.
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**In other words it's just a monitoring tool keeping an eye on the world's natural resources. If you look at the actual list it lists natural resources in alot of other countries too. It doesn't mean they (the UN) control or own any of it. All the UN is is a keeper of the list because it entails natural resources of many different countries. (who btw are charter members of the UN).
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**Protecting our world wide natural resources is important for all nations.
**After all, it's not just the US that has to work to keep these natural resources in check and protected, it's a world wide endeavor that every country must recognize the importance of in saving these natural resources. The UN is merely an umbrella that covers the nations and natural resources list so each country can keep tabs on what they/others are doing as well in order to better preserve these lands and resources.
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**It sounds like someone is trying to turn the idea of world ecology into something sinister. LOL
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**It's not.
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*it is - look into the bunkass carbon tax and the new cities they have planned for after the collapse - its incrementalism at its finest
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Collapse? What new cities?
You mean the ones they are building in a far off distant land far across the sea miles away from anyway over the hills as the crow barked 39 peoble lived miles away from anywhere on a little island on a distant land?
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- Re: so the National Parks are Closed - **Hippie J** - Oct 5, 2013 at 7:57:21 AM
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