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Re: Is Ron Paul A Worthy Guru?
Posted by **murray** on Sep 25, 2013 at 12:59:53 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Is Ron Paul A Worthy Guru? posted by **BlackMonk** on Sep 25, 2013 at 12:05:36 AM:
*** One Ron Paul advocate says that in order to pursue freedom , we should copy Ron Paul...
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*** Do you feel that Ron Paul is a worthy Pied Piper for freedom? An ideal choice for guru?
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**Hi Murray. Sorry again bro. If I had a brother, I would have hurt him at some point doing or saying this or that, and I would hope I could still him bro. Anyway, I found this, (just in Wikipedia, but it sums some things up, in principle I guess. I don't intend to change your views, for they are valid to one degree or another, as most of not all viewpoints can be. Here's just the first paragraph to show Paul's stance, which he has said before that he believes any people should confront and take care of their issues, not government, (for his reasons of wanting to be JUST a Constitution-following-politician, as mater of principle. Here's the starter paragraph for better or worse.
**Thank you for your time and your opinions.
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**From Wikipedia:
** Paul's nickname, "Dr. No", reflects both his medical degree and his assertion that he will "never vote for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution". This position has frequently resulted in Paul casting the sole "no" vote against proposed legislation. The central tenet of Paul's political philosophy is that: "The proper role for government in America is to provide national defense, a court system for civil disputes, a criminal justice system for acts of force and fraud, and little else." End quote.
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**I know the little else seems harsh when we take int account civil rights. But, how some see that is that the people not being allowed to do this or that has the responsibilty to make those things they want happen, beit through war like the Revolutionary war or the civil war was fought due to differences of "wants".
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**So, it seems that Paul and libertarians in general, and maybe some others here and there, probably think even though it is not right or fair to not serve somebody or not allow people into any business based on race or anything, (seemingly ugly and very heavy people get turned away even now still), that they want to follow the Constitution, and not have the government start controlling what some people want to do with their businesses. If the people being restricted choose to fight it out, or however they want to handle any situation, that would be the way of the people attempting to solve their issues. The free market is their desire. To let businesses fail or succeed by doing things the way the owner wants, being it is his or her's business.
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**It has nothing to do with Paul not liking any minority. It has everything to do with how he just wants to be like the founding fathers, it seems. IN principle, to get government out of things, except for what they were first set up to "do".
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**Right or wrong in anybody eyes will go on, of course. But if not knowing the WHY as to Paul's reasoning, it will seem as if he dislikes minorities. Not the case, going by his doctor's career, and the relationships and things he has said in his speeches.
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**Just something to consider, or not. I have no battle in this.
**I just didn't want my son in law bated into a preconceived fixed outcome scenario, as I saw it later. Hope you can understand those feathers being ruffled. I LOVE my family! They are who I would stick up for. I jumped my memory gun.
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**Politics; It is not my world. Family Time/Helping and Music are! Yard work too. I am just excited about Chris's good works of economic matters, along with his clever views of government economics in his writings, that have him getting published on several websites. HE is NOT a racists, or feels that he works for any. He is sincere about that. Knowing my daughter, she would not have married him 12 years ago if there was a hint of that. His father hired all kinds of people, (short and fat ones even!), depending on what anybody who filled out an application knew and could do, period! I was in his stores and saw this and that people! HIS doing. So, like father like son, ya know.
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**Thank you again Murray, (for any consideration of any kind).
**John
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*The flaw in a strictly libertarian, "every private business should be able to do whatever they want without government interference" philosophy is that every private business makes use of public facilities paid for by tax money, including that of the people they're discriminating against. Do they have bathrooms? Public sewage system. Do they have employees that can read and write? Public schools. Can people get to their business? Public roads and sometimes public transportation. Are they in an area where their potential customers feel safe going? Public police and courts. If a building a block away burns down, is it likely that their building won't burn down too? Public fire department. Etc. Etc.
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*It's a bit disingenuous for someone to make use of all of those things and then say that the government doesn't have anything to do with their business, so why should they have any say in how it's run. Like all of those things, civil rights legislation exists for the public good.
It doesn't get any clearer than that...
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