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Re: Irony at it's best
Posted by **bon bon** on Sep 21, 2013 at 3:27:35 PM:
In Reply to: Re: Irony at it's best posted by **pycb** on Sep 21, 2013 at 2:39:30 PM:
**************Let's look at the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured..
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**************but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.
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**************For those who refuse to prove they are citizens, or are unable to prove they are citizens, they will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they ARE citizens.
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**************I find that not only ironic but rather disturbing..don't you?
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**************Obamacare must go.
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*************We can't run all the non-citizens out. It's impossible.
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*************They are already receiving free health care if they are unable to pay. That is subsidized by everyone who now pays for health insurance.
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*************Don't you know that?*
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************at least do
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************and what should be done?
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************treat them when they end up in a hospital waiting room - once treated as they are illegals & we know that they are illegal - provide transport & pocket money for a trip back to where they are legal
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***********“911 what is your emergency?”
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***********“Some guy just fell off his bike! I think he’s having a heart attack!”
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***********“Is he a citizen?”
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***********“Sir, is he a citizen?”
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***********“I don’t know if he’s a citizen! He’s dying! Send an ambulance!”
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***********“Sir, we cannot dispatch resources for non-citizens. Please ask him if he has his proof of citizenship.”
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***********“He can’t even breathe, let alone talk! He’s turning blue!”
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***********“Sir, find out if he has his citizenship papers. If not, he’ll need to go home and get them before we can send help.”
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***********“He looks like a citizen! He’s clean cut and he has a nice bike. Send an ambulance!”
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***********“Sir, we cannot determine citizenship by how someone looks. That would be profiling. We need to know if he has his papers.”
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***********“Are you insane?”
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***********“No sir, I am not. These are the rules. You should know that. Once he recovers he'll be deported.”
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***********“But but but he’s gonna die! He’s dying right now! Some guy is doing CPR but he’s totally blue. Please send help!”
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***********“Is he a citizen?”
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**********what part of treat 'em then deport 'em don't you understand?
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*********What part of you're already paying for it don't you understand? What part of "how about we get more uninsured people to help foot this bill?" don't you understand?*
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********so we should just continue to pay for them?
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********what makes you think we are going to get more uninsured people to pay for them - and why the hell should we?
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********they are in the country illegally - I'm willing to help pay for US Citizens - not freeloaders
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********don't you understand that with the Healthcare Exchanges that have been set up that if there are not enough Insurance companies willing to pick up all (& many are opting not to participate in them) that apply that the Federal government (i.e. you & I) will pick up that coverage?
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*******"so we should just continue to pay for them?"
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*******Ummm... if we don't, who will? They will get treated, regardless. If you think otherwise you're delusional.
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*******"they are in the country illegally - I'm willing to help pay for US Citizens - not freeloaders"
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*******So US citizens who refuse to insure themselves and take advantage of the system aren't "freeloaders"? You realize that a lot of them make excuses until they get hit by a car and then all their excuses fly out the window. Don't you?
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*******I worked in EMS for 5 years in a border state. What kind of fantasyland do YOU live in?
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*******If you're happy with the status quo, then carry on. *
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******this is like talking to myself................
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******When have I ever said I was fine with the status quo?
******I've stated over & over again - Healthcare needs to be reformed - Obamacare is not the way to go about it.
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*****You didn't need to say it. She says it enough for five people...
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*****She's in this locked mindset where if you're against Obamacare, you're 100% for the status quo and anti-health care reform...In other words. Obamacare is the ONLY way and if we don't accept it as the only way, then we're all "I've got mine so fuck you"...
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****hey "she" is here so talk to her
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****I never said it was Obamacare or nothing... but so far no one has proposed anything viable that's better and in the meantime *I* am paying more and more and more and I'm f*ckin tired of it. I'd like someone else to start paying their share.
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****Let's see if anyone else can get any kind of reform off the ground in the next ... oh? 15 or 20 years? I have no faith in that.
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****If you're ok paying more and more every f*ckin year for your insurance because of this sh*t then yeah have a party.
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***well young lady - I've got news for you -- be prepared to pay more & more because of Obamacare.........
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**says who?* sigh
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*I am talking to myself...........
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*Have you not read a single thing I've posted links to over the past year?
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*Healthcare premiums have already risen 29% of the past year & it's not fully implemented yet.
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*Taxes have increased on medical devices because of this Bill. That cost is being passed on in higher doctors fees.
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*Your healthcare if provided by your employer is now considered part of your compensation & is being taxed as part of your earned income.
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*Being able to contribute money toward a flexible spending account to cover deductibles that are not covered by your insurance can no longer be contributed as pre tax dollars.
*It is added to your income resulting in a larger amount of payroll taxes.
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*The exchanges being set up to handle the influx of new people requiring insurance will be subsidized by the Federal government if there are an insufficient number of insurance companies signing on to them. Most major insurance companies are declining to take part. Therefore more government subsidy meaning more of your tax dollars are going to go toward that.
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*It's killing jobs as companies seek to shed employees or reduce their hours to avoid it.
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*many, many more instances - take the blinders off & try reading for yourself - I'm getting tired of having to keep reposting the same answers to your oft repeated question
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If you're so convinced you're talking to yourself then why not stop talking? Why keep challenging everyone who disagrees with you?
What's the definition of insanity?
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