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Re: On Where Can That Littlle Left Be?
Posted by **The Duke** on Aug 30, 2013 at 1:53:45 PM:
In Reply to: Re: On Where Can That Littlle Left Be? posted by **The Duke** on Aug 30, 2013 at 1:34:48 PM:
*** Asked about the anti-war left's response to past, present, and future events in Syria, Dennis Kucinich had a question of his own.
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***"What anti-war left?" he asked.
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***The longtime editor of Antiwar.com, voiced a similar sentiment.
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***"What anti-war groups?"
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***A veteran activist with progressive nonprofit Roots Action had this to say:
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***"The Democrats are missing in action because the President is a Democrat. That's the biggest factor, I think. What's tamping down the activism is partisanship."
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***Even the most prominent anti-war groups have seen their numbers dwindle since 2008.... Some just don't have the numbers to pull off effective demonstrations and rallies...
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*** Some seemed to believe that once Obama took office, wars would end and their efforts would no longer be required... We'd be too busy gazing at rainbows and eating oodles of cotton candy in a harmonious paradise...
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*** How's that workin' out for you?
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**not sure why anyone would think that.
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**everybody's anti-war - well every sane person is anti-war
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**but that doesn't mean there isn't a time to act - at least in my mind
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**WW2 had a legitimate rationale - the discussion comes down to what grey people are ok with i suppose - what are your ethics and morals and what is the line that goes too far.
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**iraq to me was false in its premise
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**the rationale for iraq was WMD which was false and most everyone believed was false and was proven to be false - as well Hussein had been supported by the U.S. and the U.S. had turned a political blind eye to his use of chemical weapons on the Kurds - i remember in our frequent bagism debates saying that if the US wanted to go to war for political control reasons with Hussein and for his obvious atrocities they should come right out and say it rather than the slight of hand approach - it was bogus. say we're invading and why and we're going to put a flag up, appoint a governor and stay at least 100 years until we get in under the control we want. that i could understand, maybe not support but understand - i remember saying as much at the time to PYCB - it's imperialism, couched or otherwise.
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**Syria is different in that the world is dealing with a chemical weapons attack on its own citizens - do you let that unfold or step in - i believe that innocent citizens should be helped and Assad should be weakened to the point that he is deposed.
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* How about Hussien's chemical attacks on the Kurds during Cigar Bull's-eye watch, and part of King George II's false information concerning WMDs in Iraq?
* You argue for the war you detested in Iraq.
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Um, ha-ha! Cotton pickin' spell correct! That monnicker should be Cigar Bill!
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