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Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters
Posted by **murray** on Aug 15, 2013 at 10:31:35 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters posted by **bon bon** on Aug 15, 2013 at 8:56:08 AM:
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************ I'll provide some possible explanations and you can decide which ones fall closest to how you feel... Maybe it'll be Partly A and Partly D and so on. .Who knows but here goes:
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************A.) Obama has done nothing I disagree with.
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************B.)I disagree with some things he's done but I believe the good he's done far outweighs the bad and therefore the bad isn't worth mentioning...
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************C.) He's disappointed me sometimes but I can't give his detractors the satisfaction of admitting that...
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************D.) I consider myself a proud Democrat and that requires me to support Obama whether I believe he is wrong or right...
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************E.) I only care about how his policies impact me personally and others in situations similar to mine...... If it doesn't have a profound impact on me or those like me, I couldn't give a damn...
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************If none of these come close to explaining why you cannot verbalize disagreement with Obama, please feel free to provide your own explanation...Thank you and drive stately...
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***********I've thought of another possibility "If I disagree with Obama I'd be a racist"
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**********Yes, I thought later that I should have added at least one more possibility...Something concerning the profound historical significance of his being the first black president and how that monumental step forward must not be tarnished by any hint of scandal or corruption... Too big to fail...
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**********Wouldn't rule that out...
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*********I've lost count of the number of times I've been called racist, esp by some here, for criticising Obama......it defies logic.
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*********Maybe you should re-frame the question, something along the lines of - What good has Obama actually done? - imo, a big fat dollop of nowt......
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********It doesn't matter how I frame it...They've built their own frames and that's that...
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********It's been something to see though...Quite interesting...
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*******It defies logic, the whole thing......
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*******on a side note, I think all of your options above could be a result or combination of two categorical states, cowardice or complicity.......the option I proffered,..... the result of dumbassness.
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******no, it defies your illogic...'cowardice or complicity' or rather it's a different point of view....which you obviously disagree with.
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***** The people in question don't even have the ability to DESCRIBE what they see when it comes to seeing themselves or their omnipotent leader.... Or they place more importance on some guy on a message board than their own consciences...
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****Oooooh now the claws are really coming out! Did you honestly think anyone saw through your little baiting charade here?
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****Here you are wrong again. "The people in question" have plenty of ability. They just don't respond the way YOU want them to to your dumbass baiting trolling demands.
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****How did you get to be such a narcissist to think anyone here owes you anything or else be attacked with your barely contained rage?
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***"what they see when it comes to seeing themselves or their *omnipotent* leader"
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***How can anyone expect any rational discussion by posting such a statement?
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***Ibtw consider it to be a loaded question even without the adjective. A typical Flangerism. But he'll never understand this.
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** You call it rational when someone claims they know what you will say and what your motives are better than you do? You think it's rational to claim someone is 'hippie j's defender' when they have taken issue with just about all of her opinions for years? You call it rational to have some burning need to refer to someone by a screen name they haven't used in years> or to use something as an excuse for not directly interacting with someone and refusing to tell them what that something is?
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**Who the fuck are you to talk about rationality?
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*You aren't in a position to argue about rationality.
Come and see me when you've mastered a few more basic concepts like those I mentioned further up on the board...
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