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Re: Barack Milhouse Obama?
Posted by **murray** on Aug 15, 2013 at 1:33:02 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Barack Milhouse Obama? posted by **fishamaphone** on Aug 15, 2013 at 1:13:29 AM:
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********I keep thinking of what Nixon said to David Frost in that famous interview:
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********"If the President does it, that means it's not illegal."
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********President Obama has shown a remarkable ability to avoid enforcing laws on the books which he does not happen to agree with...
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********Then there's that enemies list thing...
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********and his recess appointments which a court ruled were not recess appointments because there was no recess......
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********But he's done so much good stuff, who gives a shit...
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*******This is why no one wanted to answer you about why they supported Obama. It was obvious that you were holding this kind of thing in reserve and would respond to any Obama supporter with something like that. Why would anyone encourage such a conversation?
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******Horseshit.. You don't know how I would have responded to a forthright answer to the question I asked... I told you how I would respond...You can only speculate about what I would have done and you'd be wrong...
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******That was the deal I offered...Give me a No-BS answer and I'll say "Thanks for the honest straightforward response" and that's all, folks... No takers so I'm perfectly free to say this as it is not part of the deal I offered...
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*****That's pretty fickle of you.
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****Life's like that.. Sometimes one resounding "Screw You" leads to another...
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***But the point is, while you obviously tried very hard to appear sincere, and I should be clear here: that's a compliment and something to be commended, it shows others that you never really cared that much, even if you thought you did, to let it go that quickly. It appears as though it was simply a fleeting distraction for you, a shiny toy that is the most important thing in the world until you see another toy. Remember: you're *asking a favor* of people you've spent years antagonizing. Nobody owes you anything, and if you really want answers, it means making yourself approachable and humbling yourself a bit. Adamantly demanding responses and getting upset when you don't receive any ain't gonna cut it.
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***'Cause let me tell you, over here in my neck of the woods, I couldn't begin to tell you how many lives have been lost by people on both sides insisting that "one resounding 'screw you' leads to another."
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** I came here intending to speak my mind, not win any popularity contests...It's nice to have a good time on board but not as the expense of my core beliefs...I knew how to win the popularity pool early on and I wasn't interested...Perhaps I was naïve to believe that the majority of people were capable of disagreeing with each other on certain topics but were still able to interact positively on other matters...The level of " If you don't agree with me here, I don't want to talk to you about anything" was quite something to experience...
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** I consider a large part of my purpose here to be making damn sure topics are out there that would often not be mentioned if Obama supporters were the ones I had to rely on to bring those subjects up.. That is essential and I don't intend to curtail it or stifle it in any way whatsoever... I'm not always going to make those with vastly different views feel comfortable...
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**So if people don't want to answer, fine... I made an offer.. They did not trust me to keep my word...Okay, so that's that.. I'll make some concessions but I am not about to beg...
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**People who want to tell me they know my motives and future responses better than I do? I'm supposed to humble myself for that sort?
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**Ain't happening...The standoff will go on...
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*Yes you are. Don't act as though you're blameless here. You give BM just as much as he gives you, and others get just as bad from you even when they're not all that aggressive. Why should *they* humble themselves by answering your question when you refuse to do them that favor?
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*Again, if what was important to you was really the answer, you'd be willing to do that. As it stands, you're just confirming to everyone what they thought in the first place, and the whole exercise feels like an attempt at gaining leverage on your part. Is "making sure I have leverage" one of your core beliefs?
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Bullshit... I didn't just say "Answer the question NOW!" ...I made a promise to not do what some insisted I would do... I stated that if did not do as I said I would, , they would have every right to label me a liar... And even though I got nothing close to the answer I wanted from some people, I nonetheless answered their questions when they was absolutely no give and take as far as answers went...I was asked if there was anything Obama had done right and I answered... Even though I felt it was largely a "You have to answer this before I will but I won't answer you anyway " kind of game...
As little as that may seem, it was more than I got in return from some...
So that's that.. I asked,, They refused... It doesn't matter how I word it or how many "Pretty Pleases' I throw in..
It's still me asking..
I do wonder if those who claim it's all about my way of doing it would be any more inclined to answer if the question had come from another person who is not hesitant to criticize Obama...
I tend to believe the response or lack thereof would have been pretty much the same..
People love to claim it's so much about me but it really is not..
******You think if I had any takers. I'd be interested in proving you right?
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