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Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters
Posted by **backbeat** on Aug 14, 2013 at 8:16:06 PM:
In Reply to: Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters posted by **murray** on Aug 14, 2013 at 8:08:41 PM:
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********A.) Obama has done nothing I disagree with.
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********B.)I disagree with some things he's done but I believe the good he's done far outweighs the bad and therefore the bad isn't worth mentioning...
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********C.) He's disappointed me sometimes but I can't give his detractors the satisfaction of admitting that...
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********D.) I consider myself a proud Democrat and that requires me to support Obama whether I believe he is wrong or right...
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********E.) I only care about how his policies impact me personally and others in situations similar to mine...... If it doesn't have a profound impact on me or those like me, I couldn't give a damn...
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********If none of these come close to explaining why you cannot verbalize disagreement with Obama, please feel free to provide your own explanation...Thank you and drive stately...
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*******I've thought of another possibility "If I disagree with Obama I'd be a racist"
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*******Spiggy
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******Yes, I thought later that I should have added at least one more possibility...Something concerning the profound historical significance of his being the first black president and how that monumental step forward must not be tarnished by any hint of scandal or corruption... Too big to fail...
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******Wouldn't rule that out...
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*****I've lost count of the number of times I've been called racist, esp by some here, for criticising Obama......it defies logic.
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*****Maybe you should re-frame the question, something along the lines of - What good has Obama actually done? - imo, a big fat dollop of nowt......
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*****Spiggy
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****It doesn't matter how I frame it...They've built their own frames and that's that...
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****It's been something to see though...Quite interesting...
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***It defies logic, the whole thing......
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***on a side note, I think all of your options above could be a result or combination of two categorical states, cowardice or complicity.......the option I proffered,..... the result of dumbassness.
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**no, it defies your illogic...'cowardice or complicity' or rather it's a different point of view....which you obviously disagree with.
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* The people in question don't even have the ability to DESCRIBE what they see when it comes to seeing themselves or their omnipotent leader.... Or they place more importance on some guy on a message board than their own consciences...
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*Oh that's right...The overall objective is all that matters.. Even if it's drowning in corruption, broken promises, dereliction of duty, and so on...
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*Nothing to see there...Move along... No skin off your Canadian nose..
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see, even here your misusing my words to deflect and divert - i never said that - i answered/explained when you asked above in the other post - i never said, no matter what, the over-all objective over rides and you know it. this is what happens, these questions you ask are looking for responses that you can trip up people for - not information or trying to employ a better future...and yes you're right, and i said it, i don't really care intimately about american internal issues - i pay a passing notice but ultimately it's up to you, not me - just as you pay zero interest and notice to canadian internal issues.
Followup Messages:
- Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters - **murray** - Aug 14, 2013 at 8:51:16 PM
- Re: Let Me Help Ya Out, Obama Voters - **backbeat** - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:54:23 PM
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