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Re: The Birth of a Police State
Posted by **Johnny D** on Aug 7, 2013 at 3:07:21 AM:
In Reply to: Re: The Birth of a Police State posted by **BlackMonk** on Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57:56 PM:
*****UK police to be granted sweeping new powers
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*****The UK Government is about to pass legislation which will make any behaviour perceived to potentially ‘cause nuisance or annoyance’ a criminal offence. The Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill also grants local authorities, police and even private security firms sweeping powers to bar citizens from assembling lawfully in public spaces. Those who refuse orders under the new rules will face arrest, fines and even prison time.
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*****Read more at linky
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*****This has to be stopped....
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*****Spiggy
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****If the people can't stop crimes, especially by crowds, who else to deal with the lowlifes looking for trouble? The bobbies have to keep up with the times, and deal with life threatening criminals and their weapons more and more. This isn't the stick in the hand kind of days gone by. England has many more criminal folks than ever, right? if so, what would you suggest be done to try to keep the good people from harm?
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****Again, speak up at the town meetings, and hear them out as well.
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****I caringly suggest to attend your town meetings.
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***What town meetings?
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** Town council run meetings. To bring up points of concern. To hear all that the town is planning to do, then to have the town's people speak up about it.
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**Wow, if that is not happening over there, I would suggest seek to get them started in your town. Every town in the US, as far as I know, have weekly town meetings, where the mayor, the town clerk, and the council members for that town run a meeting for the town's people to attend, if they want. Usually, a small crowd shows up compared to the population of any given town, then they share knowledge with neighbors, depending how serious things are for ant topic brought up. Like in a 13,000 people town, usually about 50 people show up at the municipal building to hear what's on the agenda for the town, and to speak up about anything if they want to. The more serious a topic, the more people will show up. One time, some towns around here made the news, for the masses showed up to demonstrate an issue.
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**The Minutes are taken by the clerk or someone else. My sister is the town clerk for a town next door to my town. She had lived there while being named clerk, then after she moved back to our birth town, she was still wanted, and a proposal was put up, which the people did not protest against. She, like somewhat for me, is very well loved around these parts.
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**Many issues are either passed or fought, with the people voicing their concerns, to have a watchdog affect going on for any issue of the town's.
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**So, without being involved in town's activity, which includes the police in any given town, people will not know until it's too late as to what they plan to do and why.
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**So, Those town meetings! :)
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**Thanks for asking. I appreciate your time and willingness for me.
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*If you're curious, this is what the bill actually says: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2013-2014/0093/cbill_2013-20140093_en_2.htm#pt1-pb2-l1g3
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*The only time "nuisance or annoyance" is mentioned is here:
* (1) 5A court may grant an injunction under this section against a person aged 10 or
*over (“the respondent”) if two conditions are met.
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*(2) The first condition is that the court is satisfied, on the balance of probabilities,
*that the respondent has engaged or threatens to engage in conduct capable of
*causing nuisance or annoyance to any person (“anti-social behaviour”).
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*(3) 10The second condition is that the court considers it just and convenient to grant
*the injunction for the purpose of preventing the respondent from engaging in
*anti-social behaviour.
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*(4) An injunction under this section may for the purpose of preventing the
*respondent from engaging in anti-social behaviour—
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Thank you!
Johnny
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