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Re: did you know.......
Posted by **comic relief** on Jul 14, 2013 at 12:31:21 AM:
In Reply to: Re: did you know....... posted by **Winston OBoogie** on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13:03 AM:
******great deal of education here put on by a former presidential candidate (US)
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*****ALL Americans and those who live here need to understand what the Constitution is all about. Particularly in a time where it's being manipulated and torn apart by an administration bent on turning this country into something other than what our forefathers wanted. We are literally seeing our American way of life being changed and degenerated bit by bit until comes a day when we can longer be what we've been for over 200 years.
*****A nation of freedom and democracy..if we let these things continue we'll be no better off than most third world countries.
*****Remember back in 2008 when Obama made a statement that "this country needs to be brought down a notch or two"?
*****Obama wants to destroy the U.S.A. as we know it. Obama thinks his left-wing ideas will bring a rebirth (it's not his fault since most liberals think that) but when one looks deeply into his "cure" for what he thinks ails America,..it's a cure that will kill the patient.
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****What exactly is the 'U.S.A. as we know it'? How exactly is Obama destroying that?
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****How exactly do you think that the US could even come close to being a third world country?
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****I'd bet that you spent 4th of July in your RV with your boat on some nice lake around St Louis. Tell me in what third world country someone like you would be able to spend their golden years in a motorized palace with a boat.
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***Is there something wrong with trying to remain a free country?
***Is there something wrong with living in a country where opportunities should still abound? Where all the rights given to us by the Constitution aren't questioned or challenged on a daily basis?
***Is there something wrong with wanting to have the things in life we all desire without a government standing over us trying to limit our abilities and opportunities?
***Until you have actually traveled elsewhere and see how the other half lives, don't take your own country for granted and just assume everything is doing fine. It's NOT!
***Most intelligent people can see there are changes being made to this country and it's not for the good. It's turning bit by bit into a tyranny forcing the people to do things THEIR way so they can continue to profit for themselves. The middle class of this country are in jeopardy and you sit there and pretend you don't see anything? Look at the things we've had to give up so far...do you want a list? OPEN your eyes! Anyone can look around and see alot of things we've lost or had to give up in the past few years. And you sit there and wonder what it is?
***You must not get out much.
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***This administration has done nothing but drag our economy down and forced things into a socialistic environment.
***One only needs to see what America has had to give up in the last decade to see what's going on. The things they are trying to force down our throats. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves.
***These assholes we call politicians have squandered away so much money and resources that alot of vital things in this country are becoming extinct. The middle class is becoming extinct. Everything is "peachy" in your own little world as long as you walk around with blinders on isn't it.
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***And as far as your comment about what I may have, I worked for and earned everything I have and maybe one day you will get there too. For one who claims he can make trips to Ireland or go on an African safari, I don't see what your point is in criticizing what I may have or how I spent a holiday.
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**You and your little cowmingo friend completely missed the point. You're trying to claim that because of Obama, we're turning into a third world country. In third world countries, your motor home would be considered a palace and you wouldn't have the opportunity to just spend a holiday weekend on the lake. This is a motor home in the third world. And you wouldn't be fishing for recreation, you'd be doing it for survival. I didn't criticize anything, I was simply making the point that you're once again making an unfounded, absurd statement.
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**Back to Obama ruining the country...you must be excited, you'll now be able to carry your gun with you everywhere. I thought that Obama was coming into your home and taking your guns from you??? But somehow Illinois passed the concealed carry law....odd.
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**And yes, give me that list of what I've given up. There is not one thing in my life that I've given up since the evil tyrant Obama stepped into office. I work for myself. I live as I choose, where I choose. I travel when and where I want. I eat what I want. I drink what I want. I read what I want. I watch what I want...etc etc. The only thing that really limits what I choose to do is what I have in my bank account. Since I'm obviously just not as intelligent as you, provide me your list of everything that's been taken from me.
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**BTW, I have never once said that everything is peachy. I know that there are many, many things that are wrong in our country and the world. I am just so fucking sick of assholes like you, spiggy and hippie that think that just because someone doesn't dwell in the doom and gloom, chicken little, the world is ending paranoia, that we're blind to everything. It's nice to see you're using the "OPEN your eyes!" line...following the playbook perfectly. Yup, I must have blinders on because I don't believe that we're living in fascism or tyranny. Here's the reality, I revel in the positive things in the world and take advantage of every opportunity I have.
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*I don't know how old you really are, but you obviously haven't grown up in the world that some of us have. A world where we didn't have to fight to maintain our basic freedoms and rights on a daily basis and sit and watch everything degraded or eliminated because of self serving politicians who don't give a fuck about the welfare of the people. It's an older generation that I belong to that can clearly see the changes that have been made in the last decade are not good ones. It's a damn shame there is a whole younger generation (like yours) who obviously don't have a clue as to what is happening because you simply weren't around back then to make a contrast. I think you need to get off your butt and do some homework yourself on the matter
*instead of sitting there acting pompous and arrogant and think you know it all.
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Interesting, you tell me I just can't understand something because of my age, then you're telling me that I'm sitting here acting pompous and arrogant? Was it me being pompous and arrogant when I said that you need to open your eyes? Was it when I said that you have blinders on? Or perhaps it was when I said you must not get out much. Hummm... was it me that just criticized your age? Oh, wait a minute, that was you that said ALL of that. Carry on...
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*1) 2.7 million jobs lost because they went over to China
*which represents ZERO job growth in the last 10 years.
*Nearly 1 million people became jobless just in the summer of
*2009 (6 months after Obama took office)
About 4.3 million jobs were lost in Obama's first year, but new data released Thursday show about 4.4 million jobs have been added back since then.
Yes, jobs have been lost, but they've also been added back.
*2) Over 8 million people lost their homes to foreclosure
In June, the number of properties that received a foreclosure filing in U.S. was 14% lower than the previous month and 35% lower than the same time last year.
So again, yes, a lot of homes have been lost to foreclosure, but those numbers are trending down significantly.
*3) over 4 million people now on welfare
*4) 46 million people now on food stamps because they don't make enough money by today's standards to survive.
*5) 5.5 million people on Unemployment Compensation
*6) A national deficit that is now $17,170,897,766,000.
*7) At the end of FY 2013 the total government debt in the United States, including federal, state, and local, is expected to be 20.541 trillion dollars.
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Those are all economic figures and things that you and I are in agreement that they need to improve. I pointed out the two that are at least trending in the right direction, and hopefully some of the others will do the same. However, that is not a list of things we've lost or had forced down our throats. Those are also things that have been decades in the making. Did Obama create the housing bubble? Did Obama put people into shitty mortgages for overpriced homes they couldn't afford? Back up this statement with some sort of facts: "Obama wants to destroy the U.S.A. as we know it."
*And if you want to learn what else we have lost/are losing check out what we've lost under the "sequestor".
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That's more issues related to the economy. Again, I will not argue with you that our economy has been struggling and I can not argue that programs and jobs have been cut at all levels. I will, however, argue with you when you make the claim that it's because Obama's hell-bent on the destruction of the U S of A. I will also disagree with you when you make the ridiculous statement that he's turning the US into a third world country.
And you ignored my question, if Obama is coming to take your guns away, how on earth did they manage to sneak that concealed carry law on to the books there in Illinois?Followup Messages:
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