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Re: 12 year old explains Egyptian

Posted by **comic relief** on Jul 10, 2013 at 8:00:44 PM:
In Reply to: Re: 12 year old explains Egyptian posted by **Spiggy Topes** on Jul 10, 2013 at 12:00:58 PM:

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**********===Now, that's a bright young man! :)
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*********Indeed....hasn't been corrupted by the West yet.
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********says the person who lives in 'the West' and enjoys all its inherent freedoms...
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*******Inherent freedoms??......you have go to be kidding me.
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*******Yeah I love the West, that's why I whinge about it so much.
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*******Duh
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******yes duh indeed, as you state the young Egyptian hasn't been corrupted by the evil West yet inferring that they have it all over us here in the suppressed West...and yet you choose to live in the West.....
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*****You're a right Bobby Dazzler you aren't you. I've inferred nowt that you can imagine.
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*****Hey maybe those Egyptians aren't drinking fluoridated water.........yet......They've got Coke and McDonalds tho'....so there is an ingress.
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*****You may think of Coke and McDonalds as something civilised , or being Canadian Tim Horton's perhaps??.....(btw I like Tim Horton's) - however I don't consider franchise food as any kind of measure of human progress or success tbh.....Our leaders do tho'
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*****Anyway, like I said, you're one or t'other.
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****sorry no Tim's fan here...- and it ain't so simple as one or t'other as you seem to suggest - still you certainly allude, no matter how you seem to portray otherwise, like the West are the corrupted ones compared to the Middle East enlightened brigade....
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***Yes it is that simple.....your either a complete dumbass or complicit if you can't see or deny what's going on in the world, particularly the West today.
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***How many 12 year olds you know who can articulate like this kid above.......not many I'll bet, that's because they've all been subject to Western morals, education, food, water, pharmaceuticals, tv, game culture, music, all designed to produce compliant slaves.
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***So you're either one or the other....
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**Do you know if the subtitles are even accurate? How do you know that the kid said any of that?
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**Maybe he was actually saying, "I want a McDonald's. If we had a McDonald's on the corner, no one would be killing each other with rocks. Can I get a Happy Meal with a Coke?".
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**While that's complete sarcasm, the fact remains that you have no idea what the kid is actually saying and there's a good chance someone subtitled it as they saw fit. But you'll take it at face value and question nothing.
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*Have you followed this clip to you tube, comments are allowed, do you imagine if the transcription was incorrect it would be brought to the publics attention by someone who speaks the language. Anyway, if you bothered to watch and listen you can discern some of conversation.....for example when the boy talks about Islamic law as subtitled, you can hear the word Sharia....
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*So no, I can't take your point seriously.....
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**Do you think that food, water and education are bad things?
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*Of course not, they are necessary for growth, however when they are polluted they're not much use.
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So, everything in the Western world is polluted and not much use in your view, is that correct? Tell me then, what part of the world is doing it right.

And just to make it clear, I'm not saying that everything we do in the west is completely right, but I think there's a little more right than wrong with regard to infrastructure and basic human needs.

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**Have you ever been to a place where food, water and education are a luxury?
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*Yes I have.

And? Would you prefer that to what you have available in Old Blighty? There's likely no fluoride in that brown water pulled straight off the river.


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**I recently spent just a week Malakal, South Sudan, and that was an incredible, eye-opening experience. Girls there are married off at 13 and don't even have a chance at an education...do you think that's a better system than what we have here in the West? A female child is looked at as a commodity, not a person...would you prefer that?
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*And yet both our countries are arming and propping up these Islamic extremists.....huh
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Well, you seem to have an issue with the entire education system of all Western countries, so to quote the Spigster, "Either or"...if you don't approve of the education available in the West, then you must approve of the complete lack of education opportunities in other parts of the world.


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**Their only option for water is filling up jugs of water from the White Nile. Is there something wrong with being able to open up your tap and pour yourself a glass of clean water (don't bother with your fluoridation spiel)?
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*why???....have you ever done any research into the effects of fluoridation??..is it just something you'd rather not be bothered with?

There's just really no point in arguing it. You believe it to be a fact, therefore it's a fact.

But back to my point, why do you consider easily accessible drinking water in the west to be a negative?

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**Is there something wrong with taking a shit in a toilet and flushing it out through the public sewer system? Would you prefer that people simply take a shit in the street or the river upstream from others filling water jugs?
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*You know, our water delivery and waste systems here in the UK are Victorian.....and they are beginning to crumble..yes, new builds will have the latest plastic push fit tools, (that's another method of dumbing down the population, not much skill needed for those plumbers)....however most of the water delivered to our taps are delivered in lead pipes...more poison for the masses....and yet water companies make vast profits......I pay over £45 per month for my water, because I refuse to have a wireless meter installed.....which is yet another means of data collection and control.....also, it's putting real live people out of work.....that's nearly £600 per annum ...so I expect a service concomitant to that.
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The service you should expect is that if you pay for water, you receive water. Why should they have to dispatch a meter reader just because you're too stubborn to accept some modern technology?

And you really think that using a newer type of pipe fitting is dumbing down? Is there really that much additional skill required for turning a wrench rather than using a push fit fixture???


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**And you think music is bad as well? Curious, what the fuck are doing on a John Lennon site if you think that western music is such an evil?
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*lol........so you think all Western music is good???.....you think that record companies aren't behind manipulating and manufacturing any of it???
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Did I say that? You are the one casting a sweeping generalization that no kid in the west could ever speak about social and political issues due to being "subject to Western morals, education, food, water, pharmaceuticals, tv, game culture, music".

So, again, if you think that Western music is simply a tool to dumb down the populace, what in the fuck are you doing on a John Lennon website?


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How about considering some grey for once, instead of the black or white box you are stuck in. Haven't you made the point that dividing the people is a weapon of THEM? Do you not see that you do that every single time you make a post and close out with that sort of shit. It doesn't have to be either or, there can be a melding of differing sides. Just because someone doesn't follow your views lock step, doesn't mean that they are complicit or stupid.

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