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Re: Guess It Was Bound to Happen

Posted by **Old Flat Top** on Jun 18, 2013 at 12:07:51 AM:
In Reply to: Re: Guess It Was Bound to Happen posted by **BlackMonk** on Jun 17, 2013 at 9:50:37 PM:

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****More and more schools are insisting on BCE or 'Before Common Era'...
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****Some schools accept BS , BM and Before Obama...
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***What, exactly, is your objection? Why do you think that schools should use BC? Because that's the way it has always been done? Because you think it's beneficial to the country if we explicitly use Jesus' birth as a historical reference point? Because you want to let all non-Christians know that they don't really belong here?
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**I think your first because is the most accurate...
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I'll take note that Christianity is the ONLY faith under attack by atheists in any significant degree.

**I'm just a guy who's closing in on 60 who can't help but wonder how much longer it will be before Christ is considered a full-fledged expletive not to be used in civilized conversation...
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*So this is less about politics than it is about you getting old and wanting things to stay the same? The US doesn't have a state religion, so is there any reason why secular schools should use BC instead of BCE? There are plenty of non-Christian religions in the country. There are even people who don't follow any religion. Don't all of those people deserve just as much respect as Christians?
Yeah, sure, so why change the terms? What is the objection if Christ means nothing to them? Apparently it must mean something.

Why should non-religious schools reinforce the idea that everything should center around Christianity? No one is making "Christ" an expletive. However, things like this mean is isn't being given as much of a position of privilege as it had in the past. The thing is, as a Christian, you've (and I mean "you" generically. Whether or not it applies to you personally is your call) been on top for so long that you think you're being discriminated against when you're being treated like everyone else.
Jews don't use the same calendar anyways...except maybe to correlate with the rest of the world. So as a jew, why should you care or argue in favor of such a change? Fair question I think.




*Here's another example: You know how every year someone makes a fuss about a store saying "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas?" It isn't "happy holidays except Christmas," so the thing they're objecting to is that Christmas isn't being held in a position above everyone else's holidays. Does that seems fair to you?
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Considering that Christmas day is a paganization then as a follower of Christ it concerns me very little. In fact I think it's just as well that we drop the celebration of Christs birth from it's association with pagan festivities. But I don't care nor will I argue for or against it. But the DIFFERENCE is that I'm not telling pagans to GIVE up their custom altogether or rename it to something generic as a slap in their face.
And you were talking about respect? Gosh. I don't know.


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**Weird how other faiths have always been on campuses raising their voices against so many things and BC was never a focus for protest...
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*Is that your criterion? Not whether or not something is the right thing to do? Not whether or not using "BCE" is a positive or negative development? Just whether or not you've heard complaints? I can tell you two things: One, my Hebrew school always used BCE and two, when I was a kid, I didn't think too much about it because I had more important things to worry about, but BC did give me a vague sense of discomfort.

Why? What I'm asking is if you believe that Christ lived and died nothing more than that. My goal is to understand as best as possible. Not that I care all that much since to each his own except when that person encroaches my own. I want to know what he thinks he's doing. But what is the motto "Power through Deception"??/something like that. Laughable except it isn't.



*Maybe nobody made a big deal about it 40 years ago, but isn't it possible that we've learned something in that time and now we know better?
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I'd ask you to elaborate but I don't think so, really...

Does anybody really know what time it is?



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