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Re: Home Schoolers Stripped of Rights
Posted by **bon bon** on May 3, 2013 at 7:37:20 PM:
In Reply to: Re: Home Schoolers Stripped of Rights posted by **khfpl** on May 3, 2013 at 10:50:18 AM:
********Dale Hurd spreadlibertynews.com
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********Recently, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said that home schooling is not a parent’s right. It is a statement some are saying should frighten American parents.
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********Nations like Germany and Sweden show that when governments take away home schooling rights, it’s a slippery slope to no parental rights.
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******** America the Refuge or Not
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********The Romeike family came to the United States from Germany five years ago hoping to find refuge. They wanted to home-school their children in freedom and a federal judge granted them asylum.
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********But now the Obama administration has been trying to deport them, arguing that home schooling is not a right. The case is currently before a federal appeals court.
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********Uwe and Hannelore Romeike began home schooling in Germany because they didn’t want their children exposed to things like witchcraft and graphic sex education that are taught in German schools.
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********“There were stories where [school children] were encouraged to ask the devil for help instead of God and actually the devil would help (in the story),” Uwe said.
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********ok Klaus - care to share with us about the witchcraft and graphic sex education in German schools
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*******Funny how your article leaves out the fact that the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSDLA) actually contacted the Romeike family and convinced them to emigrate to America. Perhaps they wanted a bit of PR for their company.
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*******This isn't about reversing the decision because the government is anti-home school. This is about opening the floodgates for the hundreds of thousands of people using "home schooling" as a way to get into the country. Also, don't you believe that people who have endured far worse than not being able to home school should be granted asylum first? Think about the hundreds of thousands of people that are seeking asylum in the US. People who are legitimately terrorized by their government. These people are denied but because a couple parents want to shield their kids from "witchcraft" they get to waltz right in? Do you see the precedent that this judges ruling is setting?
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*******Let us not forget that coming to the US to home school is NOT this family's only option. They could have emigrated to another Western EU country where home schooling is allowed. There is also the option of private school.
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*******But when it comes right down to it, it's really none of our business what Germany decides to do or not do with their education system (something that has been intact since the early 1700's by the way). Isn't it your buddy Ron Paul who is always criticizing the government about not getting involved in other countries affairs? Why can't we just let them be? Ultimately there are laws in Germany regarding home schooling (again since 1700's). The Romeike family knowingly violated these laws time and time again and got punished for it. If someone repeatedly drinks and drives and gets caught and punished should he just be set free because it's his right to drink and drive if he wants to?
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******I personally am just asking about the alleged witchcraft and graphic sex education in german schools
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*****I really wonder whether you really ask this as a serious question Hippie J.
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*****Anyway: there is no witchcraft (alleged or actual) ín German schools and that also goes for 'graphic sex education'.
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*****There however *is* sex education in German schools (as in many countries around the globe), maybe a reason (or actually: certainly a reason) for the fact, that the teenage motherhood rate in Germany is very low compared to other countries.
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*****The USA btw have by far the highest rate of all western countries.
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****don't try to change the subject as you often do
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***In which way did I change the subject oh allmighty Hippie J?
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***I did answer your 2 questions (witchcraft/sexual ed in German schools), didn’t I?
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***I don’t know what else I could tell you. Maybe if you would be a bit more specific or explain me where on earth you got the idea that witchcraft and graphic sexual ed play any role in Germany? Give it a try.
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****I question your sincerity in general in every post you make; you come off as nothing but an instigating troll and liar 98% of the time - and then you try to blame your language barrier and twist practically everything anyone says
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***Wow, that’s quite a statement. Or quite some statements for that matter.
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***Did you coordinate this with your White Knight OFT?
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***I mean, that’s exactly what he keeps telling me all the time (you know everytime he chimes in in order to support his friends (ak here as Hippie J) against my ‘attacks) and my reply to you is exactly the same I would give to him (would I ever consider to speak again with him): Please provide one example showing that I lied. Just one please.
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***I do not lie. I stay on topic. I don’t twist what anybody says.
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***You on the other hand avoid any discussion, and you are usually the one so easily throwing personal insults around.
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***You are constantly abusing the Bag and you are only *very* rarley contributing anything in the way and style Sam asked us to do.
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***People like you are dangerous. I am convionced, that you would shoot people like me with a smile on your face.
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****Those that know me here and otherwise can clearly observe my sincerity
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***Well, if you say so.
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***You don’t mean your obedient disciples here, or do you?
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***I mean, that’s anyway a given, isn’t it? Even you know that the WWW doesn’t really forget anything, don’t you?
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***Keep that in mind please.
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***Other than that I find it a bit dangerous trumpeting about your sincerity after having posted a fat lie just a few lines above Hippie J: “and then you try to blame your language barrier”
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***That is a big fat lie. Liar.
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***Even an ignorant like you must have noticed that my language skills are a topic (or kind of) only between the 2 of us. For a reason btw.
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***But let me first repeat what I already have explained to you so many times: English is not my mothertongue. I have never and will never suggest that my English is flawless or even near being flawless. Nonetheless I am using this language on daily bases. I communikate with US people, with people form the UK and with other non-native speakers. It works just fine. I never had and probably will never have a problem to explain what I want to explain. I even negotiate relative large businesses in English. No problem. Which also has to do with the simple fact, that usually the people I speak to are interested in communicating and they also know that good communication doesn’t need being flawless in any language.
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***It doesn’t matter how good or bad my English is, we communicate.
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***At times especially people from India or China (and from the UK quite often) even speak German (or try to) and in many cases not a good German. They just are interested in communicating, they are showing respect, they want to be friendly, and the last thing I would tell them is “you barely speak the language”.
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***As you once and bluntly told me when again dodging a discussion. You have (using different words) done that more than once, and that is the reason I am here and there reminding you about my language skills.
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***Anybody with only half a brain would understand how this is meant, don’t you think so?
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***OK, I know, you don’t think, you prefer to lie. Liar!
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****What evidence, if any, can you provide that supports your statement in regard only to witchcraft and graphic sex ed not being in german schools? surely you cant expect any of us to take you at your word (which has been proven to be incorrect more often than not)
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***You mean I have to provide evicence that witchcraft doesn't play a role in Greman schools and I have been proven wrong more often than not? Really?
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***Personally I don’t believe that even any of your close friends and followers here wouldn’t deny how bizarre you come over here Hippie.
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***But I have done you a personal favour and have replied in a seperate thread: click here
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**She cloisters herself and seems to have no grasp of the world at large. She knows no other languages, yet is quick to criticize your grasp of English (though hers is dodgy at best) and I'm sure she's never been to Germany or probably anywhere in Europe or East Asia. Her "knowledge" of the world comes from infowars and prisonplanet. Pay her no mind, Klaus.
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*I usually dont, knowing what a negative person she is (or at least how she comes over here), but I have to admit that this time she really hit a nerve. Witchcraft in German schools and she has the gall to ask me to provide evidence that this is not the case. Especially after calling me a nearly 100% liar. I know what would have happened, would I have provided the official curriculums. She would have called me a NWO supporter or agent and would drop out of the discussion.
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*How can such a behavior rationally be explained? I don't get it and still don't want to call her what most people in real life probably would call her. I btw really wonder how she is in real life.
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I understand; it pissed me off too. You don't go around making outrageous declarations and then implore someone to disprove them. That's some kind of psychopathy.
I and the other bagists with rational thought know you're not a liar.
I have a high opinion of German people, based on what I know. I admit I haven't been to Germany, but a close friend of mine lived there off and on while her husband was at the base there and she couldn't say enough about what lovely people the Germans are.
So I understand it's not as easy as "turn the other cheek" when some asshole is spitting in your face.Followup Messages:
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