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Re: A retired USA Lt Col weighs in on .....
Posted by **Old Flat Top** on Apr 24, 2013 at 12:29:41 AM:
In Reply to: Re: A retired USA Lt Col weighs in on ..... posted by **Spiggy Topes** on Apr 21, 2013 at 4:48:09 AM:
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***19 mins....if you're of an open mind......
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**OMG Spiggy,,,,NO credibility. NO actually waiting to see WHO was involved and WHY. JUST jumping to a wanted conclusion, then bringing in all kinds of unrelated facts to make his point "seem" valid.
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*OMG Johhnny.....I think your'e the one jumping to a wanted conclusion here.......this kid is a SUSPECT......SUSPECT get that?????????????????????????????????????
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*Where is your evidence he has been radicalised by teachers of hate.........Where is your evidence that he made bombs.......
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*This LT Col is giving an OPINION......get that......OPINION.....based on his past experience.......probably got more experience than you and half the other people here who are jumping on the MSM's bandwagon of pointing the finger away from the real facts......FACTS.......get that.......FACTS.......Facts like a terror driil was in place that day......FACTS like the FBI have been involved in some way or another in ALL.......get that......ALL ......terrorist activities that have taken place on US soil.....for decades.....get that......DECADES..
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*Don't give me your one sided thinking CRAP.....get that.....CRAP....when you yourself are not capable of it......GET THAT..........
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*I'm having a lovely weekend, you too.......
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*Spiggy
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I actually find this an hilarious response. (not so much the content but the style)
**An open mind is one to take in everything,,,and with common sense, be able to NOT be on one side or another, but to wait to hear the simplest explanations all the way up to the most extreme and improbable, given the people involved, the materials used, and the motives of anyone, to be able to tie up loose ends that make sense all the way through.
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**I am open to a conspiracy or extreme caused event when all factors and common sense details add up.
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**So far, what we have, (through JUST the media, of course), but on the ground media watching every step of the process): is two brothers, which one, (the older one), has been exposed to extreme Islamic radical thoughts and ways. He "apparently" talked his much younger brother into it as well. THEY, and maybe with some others, made the homemade bombs, and pipe bombs later used. The younger one is captured and will be questioned and will have a defense attorney. he will be read his rights and will determine if a lawyer will be present or not. That is up to him.
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**Lets see what he has to say. The thing here needed is: to tie materials to them directly. The pressure cookers, and all else used by them. Their also needs to be motive involved.
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**IF,,,IF it goes as "seems", with materials being connected to them, and the motives being clear, (hopefully with an admittance from the surviving suspect), then it may be as simple as the two bothers being persuaded by their radical teachers of late, and just being assholes, to carry their actions out, which are said to be some sort of honored actions, "IF" being of said Islamic RADICAL actions. Like there are whites, and there are the KKK, or there are Blacks, and there are the extreme panthers of similar, who ALL just want extreme violence against others, those two might very well be under the teachings of radical Islamics.
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**Let's deal with what is actually BEEN. Evidence on tape, in actions, and now for the one younger brother. MAYBE he will shed some light on it all.
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**To go by some unamed man of any past career and just listen to HIS ways of trying to tie everything in, is not a common sense way to think about it. ANYONE can video themselves and SAY ANYTHING! What one has to keep in mind, (if truly having an open mind), is that we should start with the most, simplest facts of what is there in real life, as in the tapes and the evidense of the pressure cookers found, and from the injuries of all. They all tell the actual story. Anyone cam make up anything, and one said, many will say, SEE??? I knew it! The Government did it"!
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**THAT is not having an open mind. IF the evidence ofo the materials, the boys, and all else falls away from the boys as being the only ones involved, then YES!...Move one step away from them, and one step at a time, TO see where it takes us.
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**An open mind also needs common sense and a step by step analysis. To have extreme conclusions takes extreme evidence of all the steps adding up in real event facts, including the people involved. Not just anyone SAYING any theory in a video and finger pointing. THAT is being closed minded, I would suggest. And maybe having an agenda.
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**Thanks for any consideration to all that!
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**Have a good weekend too!
**John
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